Just a quick debunking of a recent research report that has been widely misrepresented in the press. The study is:Debunking the Myth of Immigrant Criminality: Imprisonment Among First- and Second-Generation Young Men by Ruben G. Rumbaut, Roberto G. Gonzales, Golnaz Komaie, and Charlie V. Morgan, University of California, Irvine
The take-home message of the article is that Hispanics in the USA have a LOW rate of criminality. That is however, not at all what the article shows. Have a look at their Table 1 and you will see what most people know already — that Hispanics lie in between blacks and whites in crime-rate.
The only novelty of the article is this: It points out that it is the CHILDREN of the illegals who are the problem. The illegals themselves are too busy earning money to be much involved with crime.
This is of course VERY bad news — as it is conventionally assumed that the children of immigrants will adopt the characteristics of the host society.
The ECONOMIC advantages of immigration must therefore be balanced against the SOCIAL disadvantages of allowing in on a permanent basis such a troublesome group.
The study is being hailed as good news for the pro-immigrant camp. It is very much the reverse.
Perry de Havilland said
Actually it shows what happens when lower income people are exposed to the toxic effects of the welfare state. The parents come to work, not sponge off welfare, the children are less motivated because they are both low income (like their parents) but have learned that the state is there to insulate them from the consequences of bad decisions. It is not an argument against immigration, it is an argument against immigration and welfare.
jonjayray said
Nice try, Perry.
I guess the welfare State has made second generation Chinese into layabouts and criminals too?
Your pretence that there are no intergroup differences makes you as blind as a Leftist
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